After the advent of my new formula fully based on Rubin Boxers “ENGINEERING ANALYSIS FOR THOROUGHBRED RACING”(after committing a lot of mistakes earlier), I am happy that I was able to get at some long shots getting through.
I was surprised to get STANDING OVATION on top.
As per Rubin Boxer, the timings in the first call, the timings in the second call and the finish time decides the capacity of the horse, whether the horse ran at constant speed or whether it picked up speed or whether the horse tired out at the finish.
I am of the opinion, going through the books of some expert writers in Horse Racing, a horse cannot maintain a constant speed for more than 400 metres.(Also refer Hong Kong Jockey Club).
So my first call at any centre is at 600 metres and my second call is at 200 metres, the finish time is being provided by the club.
This is simply the split timings of the horses.
Theoretically:
STANDING OVATION (Sk.Sharookh) in his only run in Hyderabad 285 received a slight check soon after the start and was in 7th position at 600 metres, took the final turn 9 horses wide, travelled even wider in the straight to be 11th crossing the 2400 metres pole, far away 9th crossing the 200 metres, flew with a terrific burst in the last 200 metres to be shy by ¾ lengths to the winner ROYAL CODE.
Mathematically:
The timings clocked by STANDING OVATION at 600 metres were 33.18 secs, at 200 – 58.63 secs, finished at 68.92 secs.He had finished the last 200 metres in 10.29 secs.I was very surprised to see this figure, a class 1 finish time for a debut runner. I thought I got it wrong, so I rechecked it only to end up with the same result.
Comparatively:
148 ADAMARIS 1200 37.20 62.40 75.34
12 BLUSHINGBEAM 1100 30.30 55.10 68.41
232 CHINAB 1100 31.15 56.70 70.32
285 STANDINGOVATION 1100 33.18 58.63 68.92
148 ADAMARIS 25.20 12.94
12 BLUSHINGBEAM 24.80 13.31
232 CHINAB 25.55 13.62
285 STANDINGOVATION 25.45 10.29
Note the finish race time of STANDING OVATION at 10.29 secs.Too superior by all means, for a debut runner, when compared with the other runners.
Now ridden by M.F.Alikhan, who is superior than Sk.Shoorkh was also a positive sign for the horse’s chances.
Hence the decision for selecting STANDING OVATION as a good bet.
I did back this horse at 25 to 1, only to see my cash being refunded.
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the horse was rated 3rd in my analysis and rating and so i took it as a good place bet.I played at 3.5 to 1 which was refunded
swamy
Abel, All looks good in theory and may work in same centre.But you must always keep in mind a few factors such as ;
the quality of Horses which come in from other centres and the past record of the trainers in these centres.
the timings at different centres are not the same.
The quality of Jockeys in the RACE where it is TIPPED.
The intention of the connexions.It is a known fact that Horses from Hyd are brought in to bangalore mainly to keep the Animals in fit condition as there is a long break from February to July.Once in a while some Well backed Horses WIN or place towards the conclusion of the season primarily to recover costs.
90 % of races are WON , when the Owner or Trainer has backed the Horse.Very rarely do we get to see Horses winning at odds of 100 to 1.
On bangalore tote the ODDS were 800 + for WIN and 100 + for place prior to cancellation.
In Case it had WON , you would have got a STANDING OVATION from all the Visitors to the blog.
:)
Shyam, when you analyze a horse based on records certain facts should not be ignored. STRATEGIC PARTNER who finished 3rd to QUEEN’S GUEST and DORABELLA who finished 2nd to STAR OF WASHINGTON are Hyderabad based horses. Their finishing times were poor in Hyderabad when compared to STANDING OVATION. All racing centres have a straight course in the last 200 metres and the timings covered by the horses in a straight course for the last 200 metres will exactly be the same in all courses except for the ground condition. THERE CANNOT BE DIFFERENT TIME FOR DIFFERENT RACE COURSES FOR A STRAIGHT 200 METRES UNLESS INFLUENCED BY THE GROUND AND WIND CONDITION. This Ground and Wind condition can also alter the time at the same centre. When horses from different centres compete, the best yardstick for comparison will be the last 200 metres.This will avoid the confrontation in timings. False Rails, long straight or short straight have nothing to do with a straight timings in the last 200. The one centre, Bangalore alone can give you different timings for the same distance. Mostly this is because of the false rails or other factors. But in the last 200, the external factors that come into play are minimal.
The horse is the only animal which can take thousands for a ride at the same time including their owner, trainer and its rider. The term “CARRIED OVER” cannot be written off from Horse Racing.
If the win is 800+ and the place is 100+, it could have been a road for a carry over.
Very rarely we come across such records.
Remember when TRIBAL FANTASY won in the last Ban(S), the tote paid a mighty Rs.865 for win with all pools being carried over including the consolation JP.
I Just wonder, all this effort for what? We are discussing a horse that finally didn't race!
another thing...we followed beat your bookies...and really we beat the bookies hollow
Dear Vikram,
We are no experts and nobody can claim to be an expert in the elusive field of horse racing. Whether the horse raced or not, I feel that we had a healthy discussion.
I rolled my bet on Shyam’s Win recommendations, which I too liked and my profit on an Rs.1000 roll fetched me Rs.8150.Except for BOURBON KING quoted at 27/10, the rest were not at good odds. Most of our visitors seem to have beaten the bookies with PRINCESS EMILY placed at 17/10, LEAGUES APART placed at 75/100(better than the winner odds ALL MY COLOURS) and SOUTHERN EMPIRE placed at evens.
Wish our visitors to beat the bookies in the coming weeks also.
yes i do also agree if we do this type healthy discussion on racing every punter who is realy interest to have some profit with some own labour alongwith tipstar of different blogs SHYAM,SWAMY,RAJGOPAL,EAGELEYE,GOLIMASTER,MADHU,KOCHER,EASYRACING,VILEKHANI,INDIARACE,RACINGPULSE) can earn profit. you please continue the same. Ravi Khanna.
Hi Abel,
To work on your ratings do you have a spread sheet or do you mathematicaly do the process.
regards
Dear Mr. Abeldraj,
True none of us can be experts, if anyone could predict horses, all the trainers and jockeys would be the richest lot. Somehow I do feel you guys, Rajgopalji and Tiger are the cream of near experts in my eyes.
I am a keen follower of blogs and was just and read everything even though sometimes things written bounce over my head, so reading Rubin's boxer (!) and so on about a horse beat me as a follower, all these technicalities would be of interest to you, tiger, swamy, Nairji and others.
As for my second comment, having beaten bookies hollow, I can express my joy of winning, cannot I? I have noted while place form of you guys are usually impeccable, with Tiger always landing a high priced place winner apart from pulling rabbits out of VB races, predicting winners is also a matter of form, so I see who is in predicting form, at the moment as far as winners are concerned Nairji is in almost perfect form.
ABELJI,
WE ALL PLAYED STANDING OVATION, BUT ALAS TO BE REFUNDED.
WE WOULD BE THE ONLY ONES SHOUTING IN BANGLORE IF IT HAD WON OR FOR THAT MATTER PLACED.
BUT NO ISSUES, COUNTINUE YOUR GOOD WORK.
WE MISSED YOU AND SWAMY VERY MUCH IN BANGLORE. NEXT TIME MAYBE.
REGARDS,
RB.
I dont want to offend anyone, everyone has their own views and opinions, because we all follow various systems.
Frankly speaking, I feel, still feel was confident on my theory, I checked the chances of Standing Ovation, he should not have finished in the first three places. Even the other horse which backed down (APPU'S MOUNT) should have finished in the rut. That race should have seen a straight fight between ADAMARIS and BLUSHING BEAM and the former registering a thumping win, and it should have been my 4th win on that day (beat the bookies).
Every race has an overall time and every horse in the race has an individual sectional time. The sectional time stated by race callers relates to the last 600 metres and the electric timer is started as soon as the nose of the first horse crosses the Winning Post. When the winning horse's nose hits the winning post we get the overall time and a sectional time.
The sectional time is leader-to-winner, so say the sectional time is 36.00 and the leader at the 600 metre mark stopped to run 8th and the eventual winner came from 3 lengths off the leader at the 600 to win the winners sectional is 35.52 because it's (36.00 minus .48 seconds for 3 lengths as there is 6-1/4 lengths to a second in a thoroughbred race). So if there are 10 horses in a race there will be 10 sectionals.
Because a horse can get home in say 35.52 coming off the pace doesn't mean it can run the same sectional if it had to lead. So each horse is an individual and being ridden a certain way will maximize it's performance. Some horses can run incredible sectionals, but that doesn't mean they win a heap of races. Historically speaking there is no sanity to it all - and we are left to think the only reason they perform outstanding efforts is because they are better chasers.
If he'd have been asked to lead - he may have got beaten.
Knowing sectional times will allow you to work out when a horse has peaked such that it's following runs will generally be on a downhill movement. Like climbing Mount!
My theory is simple:
Standing Ovation ran in Div-1 in Bangalore on that day over 1100m, beaten by Roya Code, Champion... (name forgotten), Phar Lap and finished 4th was Standing Ovation (Verdict - Fully extended by the four horses in the frame, Neck, Neck, 1/2 L). See the timings of 200mts = 6.10, 18.59, 30.15, 41.37, 53.62, 68.71 (last 200m taken 15.09 seconds).
Same day in Div-2 of this race was won by Splendid Scot by 2-1/2 lengths, 1-1/2, 2 lengths (Easy), and clocked, 6.12, 13.00, 31.17, 92.09, 54.26, 67.97. (last 200m taken only 13.71 seconds)
By all means Splendid Scot is a better animal any day. This horse has already an insignificant race run this season in Bangalore. And Bangalore turf is entirely different here horses clocks at least 2 seconds slower. And with F.Ali Khan up this horse does not have a ghost of a chance on that day. Being The Open Opinion Trophy (Prestigious for MAM), this race should have seen a straight fight between Khaitan's and MAM's horses.
Any way good luck to all who participated in this discussion.
ADAMARIS FOR YOUR NOTEBOOK.
sorry guys, instead of Hyderabad, I have wrongly mentioned Bangalore.
now this is what i call a healthy debate... well done keep it going.
regards
There has always been a problem in deciphering the sectional timings. Original Vel has reported the following sectional timings for ROYAL CODE in 285.
(First 300) 19.3, 31.1, 43.4, 56.2, 68.71.
According to OV reporter, the timings clocked by the lead horse in this race is
19.3 At 800 metres
31.1 At 600 metres
43.4 At 400 metres
56.2 At 200 metres
68.71 At the finish.
Since ROYAL CODE has won this race start to finish, the timings quoted above pertains to ROYAL CODE, being a lead horse all the way. There is no question of any horse coming from behind to alter the timings recorded by the reporter. Accordingly ROYAL CODE had completed the last 200 metres in 12.51 secs (68.71 – 56.20).
You had mentioned an exorbitant 15.09 secs which is incorrect.
My software reports the following timings for ROYAL CODE.
First call at 600 metres 32.06 secs
Second call at 200 mt 57.07 secs
Finish calls 68.71 secs.
According to me ROYAL CODE had completed the last 200 in 11.64 secs. (68.71-57.07)
My timings and the Original Vel reporter timings are closer.
When ROYAL CODE touched the 200 metre marker at 57.07 secs, STANDING OVATION was atleast 9 lengths behind the leader ROYAL CODE.STANDING OVATION was not sighted even at 50 metres and he burst his way at 10.29 secs in the last 200 metres to be shy by ¾ lengths at the wire.
Note the winner doing at 11.64 and the flyer doing it at 10.29.Some horses do warm up late to “win after post” showing a smarter finish time than the winner.
The sectional timings reported by various reporters in various publications are one and the same, not even missing a nano – second. How can this be?
Trackreporters differ in timings but not so with sectional race timings – A strange phenomena!
STANDING OVATION should be noted for the future.
My analysis is based on records, whether Hyderabad based, Mumbai based or Bangalore based.
Further ROYAL CODE had run 5 times earlier whereas STANDING OVATION had a debut.
That sort of burst for a debut runner with a mediocre jockey warrants support.
ABELJI,
I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE HAS TO SAY !!!!!!
I AM NOT A PUNTER, BUT I PROMISE YOU ONE THING, THE NEXT TIME STANDING OVATION RUNS, IN ANY COMPANY, I WILL BACK IT.
THEN IT CAN WIN OR COME LAST, DOES NOT MATTER,BUT I TRUST YOUR WORKING TO THE T.
ALSO I WILL HAVE ALL MY FRIENDS PLAY IT.
REGARDS,
RAJESH.
Mr Abel,
What Original Vel printed is not "Sectional Time". Dont misinterpret "Time of each 200m clocked by the leader" as "sectional time". In that race Royal Code won the race start to finish hence the time of each 200m noted is of Royal Code. Race day reports say runner-up Champion Star was found lame after the race, Phar Lap who finished 3rd was tending to run out at the initial stages and at 800m. All these horses beaten Standing Ovation. Even the horse finished 5th was also 3/4 l behind.
Another thing to be noted is Lucky (hyderabad), Lucky Mumbai, Original Vel, Cole, and Bol - all these books publish timings of each 200m pole. There is no consensus among them, and the timings given by them are entirely different. Then whom you believe? You have to take out your time after seeing the reply several times, or you need a good software to calculate it.
Anyway, your Standing Ovation is running tomorrow (Saturday), sans Adamaris and Blushing Beam. Now the ball is in your Court. If it wins, I will shut down my both blogs forever. You may stamp me as arrognat, no, this is the reply to a non-punter like RB I have to give, Mr Bijlani, if you are not a punter - then dont advise others to play, if you are a punter then advise punters to play.
STANDING OVATION - A LOST CAUSE TOMORROW. CANT WIN.
Mr. Nair,
If every 200 metres are a section of a race, what do you call the timings for these sections?
I have heard punters saying “If this horse loses, I will never again come to the racecourse” .After losing, they are the first to report to the race course, the very next day.
Meanwhile, why do you want to shut your blogs if STANDING OVATION wins? If STANDING OVATION loses, Shamsuddin is not going to surrender his license nor am I going to stop my posts. There are umpteen other races that could come my way. So why worry?
Why do one want to call you arrogant?Something new like "calm" could be better.
I have seen the race in hyd where standing ovation ran can someone tell me the name of the horse that was finising along the rails with jockey asleep Please.
regards
I THINK THE ISSUE IS BECOMING MORE PERSONAL. I WOULDNT WANT ANYBODY TO LEAVE RACING OR FOR THAT MATTER TAKE THE MATTER MORE SERIOUSLY THAN IT DESERVES. NONE OF US ARE GOD. WE ARE RATING HORSES BASED ON CERTAIN PARAMETERS. SOME OF THE BEST HORSES MAY ALSO LOOSE SOMETIMES.
IN THIS CASE I WOULD SAY THAT THE HORSE IS GOOD AND IF YOU GET A GOOD ODDS, IS DEFINITELY WORTH A BIG RISK IN PLACE AND A SMALL RISK IN WIN.
IT PAYS TO BACK THIS. BUT THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF RISK IN HORSE RACING.
PLEASE GIVE DUE RESPECT TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN DOING RATINGS FOR QUITE SOMETIME NOW WITHOUT PULLING LEGS.
THIS BLOG IS NOT MEANT FOR PULLING LEGS AND YES IF THE HORSE DOES NOT PLACE TOMORROW WE ARE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THE BLOG AND IF IT PLACES, WE DONT NEED BOUQUETS TOO. IF IT WINS LETS SALUTE ABEL AND BE DONE WITH IT.
SWAMY
MR NAIR SAHAB,
I NEVER ADVISE ANYONE TO PLAY,EVER.
I DO MY BIT FOR THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE WHO, PROBABLY, KNOW LESSER THAN ME,OR, NEED RECONFIRMATION ON WHAT THEY KNOW, MAYBE BETTER AND MORE THAN ME.
ALSO NOTEWORTHY IS THAT I DO NOT MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE WHO WISH TO KNOW, WHAT I THINK, BY POSTING IN PRIVATE, INVITE ONLY BLOGS.
NOR DO I CREATE DOCUMENTS IN SOME CORNER OF THE CYBER WORLD, FOR PEOPLE TO CHASE AND HUNT.
AND AS FAR AS STANDING OVATION IS CONCERNED I WILL MAKE IT A POINT TO PUNT ON IT TOMORROW, HOWEVER SMALL THE FIGURE, IN MY SCALE OF THINGS.
YOU DONT NEED TO COME UP WITH THINGS LIKE YOU WILL SHUT BOTH YOUR BLOGS, IF THE HORSE WINS.
GOES TO SHOW YOUR COMMITMENT TOWARDS THE PUBLIC AT LARGE, WHO RESPECT YOUR JUDGEMENT AND FOLLOW YOU, INSPITE OF THE DETECTIVE WORK THEY NEED TO DO.
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE TO YOU ????????? I GUESS NOTHING. BUT IT SHOULD, IF YOU CLAIM TO HELP THE PEOPLE YOU DO, IF ANY.
SO I HUMBLY SUGGEST THAT YOU, LIKE MANY OTHERS, RESPECT AN INTELLIGENT PERSONS JUDGEMENT AND IF YOU PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE IT, THEN PLAY A LITTLE ON STANDING OVATION. IT MIGHT JUST WIN.
I AM SURE YOU HAVE IN THE PAST FELT THIS WAY ABOUT SOME ANIMAL WHICH YOU HAVE RECCOMENDED AND PLAYED. WEATHER IT WON OR LOST IS ANOTHER STORY.
I REQUEST YOU NOT TO MAKE WHAT STARTED AS A HEALTHY DISCUSSION, TO BECOME UNHEALTHY.
NO ONE WISHES YOU TO STOP ANYTHING THAT YOU DO, BUT WOULD IT BE FANTASTIC, IF THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS EVER ELUDING SPORT, BE SHARED AND OPENLY AVAILABLE TO ALL, INCLUDING ABELJI AND MYSELF.
DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING PERSONALLY AND BEST OF LUCK WITH TOMORROW AND SPECIALLY THE FOURTH RACE.
REGARDS,
R.B.
Tiger,that was PHAR LAP with Laxman up who finished 3rd,also a first timer.The jockey did not allow it to run on merits.
I usually do not comment about analysis made by others , everyone does have a valid reason to pick a winner based on his/her perception, I like to read peoples views and see if the are playing out as thought about, and,if not, then use my analysis to question the merit of that thought process.
Mr Nair, you and others too , should learn to be accepting of others views. No one is trying to topple anybody from the pedestal they seem to be on.- Aswin Patel
Somehow, I feel whenever Mr. Nair takes a strong stand, it causes a heartburn to others. I follow Mr. Nair as well as I do read whatever is on this blog, let me say, hats off to Mr. Nair atleast for taking a stand, with complete conviction that standing ovation will not win tomorrow, he has placed himself at test for others, so be it! It's a matter of fact that when people who are thoroughly convinced and sure about their people take it as a sign of arrogance...so be it, I rather have a arrogant, but sure analyser who has a high percentage of success rate than, calmer, docile and appeasing analysis which is usually way off the mark.
I feel surprised that someone like RB can accuse Mr. Nair of being insensitive to his followers and insinuate that we have to chase and hunt Mr. Nair who hides his blogs... so to that i must tell you that we all can conference with Mr. Nair on race days and if we are away from internet he is just an SMS away.
Truth of the pudding lies in tasting of it, let's see what standing ovation does tomorrow!
MR SOOD,
YOU ARE IN NO CAPACITY TO KNOW, HOW I HAVE HAD TO CHASE WITH MR NAIR TO GET HIM TO SHARE HIS WORK WITH US. SWAMY BABU AND ABELJI ARE AWARE.
I WISH YOU WERE PRIVY TO THE WHOLE EMAIL EXCHANGES AND PLEADING.
GO BACK TO ONE OF THE OLDER POST HERE, WHICH IS TITLED "RANS RATING AND FRUSTRATION", AND YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING.
I AM NOT CRAZY TO MAKE RANDOM STATEMENTS.
I HAVE ALWAYS HELD MR NAIRS WORK TO BE GOOD AND HELPFUL TO SAY THE LEAST.
BUT ITS THIS SECRECY AND ELUSIVE BEHAVIOUR WHICH IS UPSETTING. AND I AM NOT ALONE IN HAVING GONE THROUGH THIS. WHY WOULD ONE PERSON HAVE TWO BLOGS OTHERWISE? ONE OF THEM IS INVITE ONLY. FOR WHICH NOT ONLY ME BUT ABELJI ALSO HAS REQUESTED INVITATION, WITHOUT ANY REPLY AND/OR APPROVAL. AND IN BETWEEN THERE WAS THIS WHOLE GOOGLE DOCS RIGMAROLE. TO WHAT END USE ?????? GOD AND MR NAIR ALONE KNOW....
AND PLEASE TELL ME, ARROGANCE FOR WHOSE BENFIT??????
ITS VERY SIMPLE MR SOOD, YOU LIKE SOMETHING AND I DONT........SO BE IT.
WHY TALK ABOUT CLOSING BLOGS OR SOMETHING RIDICULOUS LIKE THAT.
WHAT IS ANYONE TRYING TO PROVE ???
OH, AND BY THE WAY YOU SEEM TO BE A ARDENT FOLLOWER OF MR NAIR, THEREFORE PRAY HARD THAT STANDING OVATION DOES NOT WIN. BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT GET TO GO THROUGH MR NAIRS WORK. UNLESS OF COURSE YOU LIKE TO CHASE, THROUGH SMS OR OTHERWISE.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE TAKES A STRONG STAND DOES NOT MAKE THAT PERSON GREAT OR RIGHT OR BETTER.
ALL I SAY IS THAT IF ONE PERSON HAS HIS OWN CONVICTIONS THEN THAT'S LOVELY.
WE ARE ALL ON PUBLIC DOMAIN HERE. HOW DEOS IT MATTER IF ONE OR TWO OR TWENTY BLOGS CLOSE DOWN. AND WHO IS THAT A THREAT TO?????
YOU MENTION THAT AND I QUOTE " I rather have a arrogant, but sure analyser who has a high percentage of success rate than, calmer, docile and appeasing analysis which is usually way off the mark."
THATS CONVICTION WITHOUT VINDICTING ANYONE. AND ITS A CHOICE YOU MAKE. BUT YOU DID NOT SAY SOMETHING SILLY LIKE " IF STANDING OVATION LOOSES I (MR SOOD) WILL STOP VISITING SWAMYBABU'S BLOG OR REFERING TO ABELJI'S RATING ETC ETC" SOUNDS RIDICULOUS DOESNT IT ???????
THINK MR SOOD........THINK.
GOOD LUCK,
R.B.
Relax guys there are no winners here.Focus on the job ahead.
No point creating a debate out of nothing. Rajesh relax you dont have to prove anything to anyone if you believe what you are doing is right then the rest is history.
regards
This R.B.Bijlani has pleaded me twice to enter into my new blog. I did not allow him a membership. He is showing this frustration and and using all these "Bhendi Bazaar" language. That is his upbringing. Mr Vinod Triplestar is a member of IHRB who is my neighbour in Mumbai. He said once this fellow called a fellow member "bastard and other nonsense" may be that message is available with IHRB.
You come and meet me face to face my no. is 9833290326, and talk to me, dont show the frustration like this.
4TH RACE OF THE DAY:
MUSIC FOREVER-WIN
COMPARING TO THE LAST FIELD, HERE MUSIC FOREVER IS FACING A MILD OPPOSITION, WITH A MOCK RACE IN HAND, AND SOME USEFUL TRACK WORKS, LOOKS VERY SPEEDY AND SHOULD HACK THIS FIELD. BACK THIS HORSE AND STAND IN THE PAYMENT 'QUEUE'.
STANDING OVATION - CANT WIN TODAY.
BEST OF LUCK TO ALL THIS BLOG.
Standing Ovation lost... debate ends. Nairji is proven correct
MR SOOD,
IF IT IS ANY CONSOLATION.........STANDING OVATION BEAT MUSIC FOREVER.
JUST ABOUT CAME FOURTH.
AND MANY OF THIS BLOG ARE STILL IN THE QUE TO COLLECT MONEY ON MUSIC FOREVER.
HEHEHEHEHE.
GOOD LUCK.
R.B.
Mr Bijlani,
Next time if you play oversmart, or try to use any abusive words on the net, I will take stringent action against you, this is the warning, whoever you are. You should be polite in your words. We are not beggars. I am always access to my readers. You are the one wanted to remain behind the curtain and shoot the target. Please behave.
Rajgopal Nair
9833290326
Mumbai
Mr.Sood, you are wrong when saying that Nairji is correct. Did MUSIC FOREVER, your boss day’s best, WIN or PLACE.PLEASURING was better than MUSIC FOREVER. (See my ratings).At least, STANDING OVATION paid Rs.29 for place in RWITC.But for RB’s publicity, could have paid much more. Have you come across an Australian longing for the tips in Destiny Calling? Read your archives. All humbug. And then this Google policy, another hoodwink, by your boss.Mr.Sood, there are plenty of blogs in Indian Horse racing. Name a blog which has a cross reference of Destiny Calling. Don’t name beat your bookies? That’s enough justification for your boss and cohorts to retrieve publicity.Mr.Sood; do you know the first man who was shunted out from IHRB? What has Mumbai Police, Cyber Crime Cell to do with your blog? Is your boss revealing defence secrets or is he is going to divulge racing tips which will bankrupt the nation?
First – one for the day, then contact me half an hour before the first race, then SMS,then nominating representatives all over India - east, west, north and south(except Central India),then beatyourbookies and now Mobile number to RB.The JP was carried over yesterday which proved my statement that there are no experts in racing.(10 tickets on 4th leg but none in the last leg which was won by the 2nd favourite) But why does your boss think that he is the almighty in racing? Can your boss or you come out with a comparison chart with that of other blogs? One hit and 100 deaths-what kind of statistics is this? But still you people, proclaim yourself as the king of racing! Will you be muscling or MUSIC’ing FOREVER, Mr.Sood?
Mr. Nair, interpreting sectional times as something else, had instigated RB and others, even though you started of your debate as “everyone has their own views and opinions, because we all follow various systems.” Till this day and time, you have not explained “YOUR MEANING” of sectional times but have jumped to race day reports, sidetracking the main issue. When RB had expressed his views about punting, you were the one who started the filth campaign and when you get back the garbage in return, why do you cry hoarse?
As anticipated, you selected a days best in STANDING OVATION race, a favourite,instead of choosing some other race, which finished in the ruck and Mr.Sood says that you are right.
You say that “This R.B.Bijlani has pleaded me twice to enter into my new blog. I did not allow him a membership.” In your next post you say that” I am always access to my readers.”
I am not a member of your new blog, because of your denial, (I am not interested in pestering you for a membership) but I get the message within 2 minutes of your post in your new blog. Portraying your posts to be a pentagon secret is pointless. You try to be shrewd, but the wiser men around you are sharper.
At least, now, you will able to understand who is smart and who is over smart!
Do you think that the visitors in this blog are unintelligent to adjudicate your futile assaults?
Read this “He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.”
Do you think that if you don’t post your tips, punters will stay back home?
What started as healthy turned filthy! RB is not responsible. Viewers know who it is?
Very well said Abel and i hope comman sense prevails. But is all this negetive sentiment worth the trouble, are there any winners well the answer is the question itself.
I have been in the same situation as Rb before for reasons I still dont know but have learnt over time that its not worth the trouble.
Focus on the job ahead you all are doing a great job.
As for Mr Sood, You have popped up on the scene only a few months ago, No one can question your belief nor does anyone want to but please give credit where credit is due and dont create a storm in a teacup.hope you understand.
Regards
whats this whole issue of Mr. nayar? what do you think of your work sir? without your selection whole nation will stop punting? If you think you are god in racing.... then with regret i must say you are the egoistic creature and have a fan following of idiots who knows nothing about racing and after reading your selection feel god(mr.nayar)is helpin us makin some chutta paisa here n there,
if you feel that people wait for your selections without taking breakfast and skippin lunch, get lost and never post your selection ever, no one is goin to sit and cry for you, or die without your selection
we still find winner and continue enjoying the work of Swamy, abel ,Rb and other like minded people who selflessly invest precious time n effort behind racing and post their view for the benefit of every one..
Mr. nayar sir, If u demand respect
its gona come to you only from fools who know nothin abt racing, and for sure not from those who know what they are doing.
and believe me no one is scared to come front and talk to you, no one i hiding, its just that they have some identity on the net , not to lose their privacy and allow every one to get personal details.
i'll be thrilled to see if you can take me to cops or court, or where ever you feel is your comfort zone. let me know where and when to meet.
now this is becoming too interesting for me.. I'm waitin with a goosebumps
footlooz.
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